August 28, 2013
NISO SIP Working Group
August 28, 2013 – Conference Call
Minutes taken by John Bodfish
Present
Tod Aimes – 3M
John Barr – Polaris
Kelli Benitez - TLC
John Bodfish – OCLC
Xan Charbonnet - Biblionix
Mike Dicus – ExLibris
Matthew Dovey – Ceridwen
Rob Gray – Polaris
Ted Koppel – AutoGraphics (Chair)
Nettie Lagace – NISO
Juli Marsh – TLC
Rob Walsh - Envisionware
Eduardo (full name unknown) – 3M
Agenda
1. Welcome
2. Minutes approval
1. Minutes were approved.
3. Mandatory fields sub-group meeting.
1. Ted and Kelli reminded everyone that this sub-group will be meeting at 3 p.m. Eastern time today and hope to complete their work.
4. Strawmen discussion.
1. The following table records the discussion.
Entry #
Description
Discussion at 8/28/13 meeting
Self service (SS) field
Per Ted, Sue Boetcher (of 3M) reported that this field is not used by anyone that she knows of, and maybe never was. She recommends that it be dropped. The group approved.
20
Wishlist = Bookbag
Ted recommended this not be included in this version per his document sent on the 16th. The group approved.
73
Password algorithm
Matthew recommended [removing as unused and nearly unuseable]. Ted talked with Sue who agreed it could be removed. Ted proposed we remove it. The group approved.
5-6
Material identifier vs. barcode
Sue (by email) agreed with Ted’s proposal that AB behave as the “formal” material identifier, similarly to the AA field. The group approved.
35
Language choice
John Bodfish will send out a discussion item.
40
Item properties repeatability
John Bodfish reported that we’d agreed on 10 April that this should not be repeatable. Ted will post a strawman on the format aspect or whatever is appropriate based on discussions in the Mandatory Subfield group.
47
OK Field for consistency on some messages
John Bodfish reported that he’d sent email to Sue today asking for her comment.
51
Alert type field but not Alert in Item Info Response
John Bodfish is due to post a discussion document.
78
If checkout fails, what to do with mandatory AH due date field
Kelli reported that the Mandatory Subfield group will address this.
79
Server response if 93 or 99 is not first message
John Bodfish will post a discussion document.
5. 3M members
1. Nettie will contact Sue Boetcher at 3M to get information on 3M’s members and will handle getting them approved by the Discovery To Delivery Topic Committee.
6. Are we ready to start editing a final document?
1. The group felt that we need to finish up the outstanding items from the list above before beginning to edit the final document.
7. Meetings schedule
1. The group agreed that the current schedule (every second Wednesday at 12:30 Eastern US time) is a good time to continue our meetings at. Ted and Nettie will arrange the meeting dates and send out invites.
2. Kelli pointed out that the current schedule would have us meeting on October 9th, which would conflict with the NCIP in-person meeting. Ted and Nettie will keep that in mind when they decide the future meeting dates.
8. Language negotiation proposal
1. The latest proposal was summarized by Xan. In the discussion Todd asked if we had considered a language field in every request. It was agreed that Todd would write-up a proposal for this.
9. Privacy issue
1. The group agreed that everyone should review the latest privacy proposal for discussion at the next meeting.
10. New Topics [None]
Prepared 09/11/2013
August 28, 2013 – Conference Call
Minutes taken by John Bodfish
Present
Tod Aimes – 3M
John Barr – Polaris
Kelli Benitez - TLC
John Bodfish – OCLC
Xan Charbonnet - Biblionix
Mike Dicus – ExLibris
Matthew Dovey – Ceridwen
Rob Gray – Polaris
Ted Koppel – AutoGraphics (Chair)
Nettie Lagace – NISO
Juli Marsh – TLC
Rob Walsh - Envisionware
Eduardo (full name unknown) – 3M
Agenda
1. Welcome
2. Minutes approval
1. Minutes were approved.
3. Mandatory fields sub-group meeting.
1. Ted and Kelli reminded everyone that this sub-group will be meeting at 3 p.m. Eastern time today and hope to complete their work.
4. Strawmen discussion.
1. The following table records the discussion.
Entry #
Description
Discussion at 8/28/13 meeting
Self service (SS) field
Per Ted, Sue Boetcher (of 3M) reported that this field is not used by anyone that she knows of, and maybe never was. She recommends that it be dropped. The group approved.
20
Wishlist = Bookbag
Ted recommended this not be included in this version per his document sent on the 16th. The group approved.
73
Password algorithm
Matthew recommended [removing as unused and nearly unuseable]. Ted talked with Sue who agreed it could be removed. Ted proposed we remove it. The group approved.
5-6
Material identifier vs. barcode
Sue (by email) agreed with Ted’s proposal that AB behave as the “formal” material identifier, similarly to the AA field. The group approved.
35
Language choice
John Bodfish will send out a discussion item.
40
Item properties repeatability
John Bodfish reported that we’d agreed on 10 April that this should not be repeatable. Ted will post a strawman on the format aspect or whatever is appropriate based on discussions in the Mandatory Subfield group.
47
OK Field for consistency on some messages
John Bodfish reported that he’d sent email to Sue today asking for her comment.
51
Alert type field but not Alert in Item Info Response
John Bodfish is due to post a discussion document.
78
If checkout fails, what to do with mandatory AH due date field
Kelli reported that the Mandatory Subfield group will address this.
79
Server response if 93 or 99 is not first message
John Bodfish will post a discussion document.
5. 3M members
1. Nettie will contact Sue Boetcher at 3M to get information on 3M’s members and will handle getting them approved by the Discovery To Delivery Topic Committee.
6. Are we ready to start editing a final document?
1. The group felt that we need to finish up the outstanding items from the list above before beginning to edit the final document.
7. Meetings schedule
1. The group agreed that the current schedule (every second Wednesday at 12:30 Eastern US time) is a good time to continue our meetings at. Ted and Nettie will arrange the meeting dates and send out invites.
2. Kelli pointed out that the current schedule would have us meeting on October 9th, which would conflict with the NCIP in-person meeting. Ted and Nettie will keep that in mind when they decide the future meeting dates.
8. Language negotiation proposal
1. The latest proposal was summarized by Xan. In the discussion Todd asked if we had considered a language field in every request. It was agreed that Todd would write-up a proposal for this.
9. Privacy issue
1. The group agreed that everyone should review the latest privacy proposal for discussion at the next meeting.
10. New Topics [None]
Prepared 09/11/2013