June 17, 2010
NCIP Conference Call
June 17, 2010
Reported by Karen Wetzel
In attendance:
•
Gail Wanner (chair)
•
Thalia Dickson (TLC)
•
Collette Mak (Notre Dame)
•
Eric Leckbee (III)
•
John Barr (Polaris)
•
Mary Jackson (Auto-Graphics)
•
Mike Dicus (Ex Libris)
•
Robert Pillow & Brad Myers (VTLS)
•
Susan Campbell (CCLA)
•
Karen Wetzel (NISO)
Updates from Implementers & Standards-Related News
ILS-DI project (Karen Wetzel)*
This ILS Discovery Interfaces group currently managed by Andrew Nagy. In a 6/14/10 e-mail, he noted:
From my perspective, the goal of this group is to take existing recommendations (ILS-DI) and
standards (NCIP) to produce a working toolset for providing true interoperability between
Discovery systems and ILS systems. That being said, I feel that the current recommendation or
focus of this group is right on so far: To adopt the XC NCIPToolkit to provide a web service
interaction model between the two aforementioned systems. The NCIPToolkit currently uses the
1.0 NCIP standard which is a specification for various messages in the exchange of information.
Right now they are using 1.0, and may not understand the changes/improvements available in 2.0, and
may not be aware of the future planned changes and that continuous maintenance process. John Bodfish
is engaged, but it would make sense to have a stronger tie with NCIP.
This is an outgrowth of the DLF work; the current project goal is stated as: “This group is intended for
discussion and concrete action toward developing an infrastructure for interoperating between integrated
library systems and other systems, but primarily discovery layers such as Blacklight, VUFind, Summon,
WorldCat Local, SOPAC, Scriblio, and others. This work has been picked up by an interested group in the
Code4Lib community.” See more, including a join link to this group, on the ILS-DI Homepage: http://
groups.google.com/group/ils-di/web/ils-interop-discussion-home?_done=%2Fgroup%2Fils-di%3F
•
Action Item: Gail/Rob to reach out to Andrew.
Is NCIP Restful?
See discussion paper from Kevin Stewart at Relais. It would be beneficial to say that we are.
•
Action Item: Please review the document and send feedback to this group.
•
Action Item: Karen/Rob to post this as a discussion topic to NCIP sites; Karen to add to the July
Newsline (Gail to provide brief write-up to Karen by July 2nd).
Outreach
ALA Social Hour – Sunday, June 27 Time - 5:30 to 7:00 pm
Lobby Bar at the Renaissance Washington DC Hotel
(999 Ninth Street NW; across street from Convention Center)
Sent to NCIP-related groups:
ILL/DD, Rethinking Resource Sharing, NCIP-IG list, NISO list, LITA
Informal gathering to discuss NCIP, meet the people involved in the maintenance/use of the standard. Action Item: Gail to send a note to Andrew Nagy about this event, to forward to the ILS-DI list (if he’s
willing).
Fall Meeting Update (Mike Dicus)
Dates: Sept. 8 & 9, 2010, Chicago, IL
See Mike’s e-mail sent on 6/3/10 for more information, including hotel rates/codes, travel info, etc.
Wednesday, 9 a.m. – Thursday, 3 p.m.
•
Action Item: If you have any special food requirements, please contact Mike to let him know.
•
Action Item: Karen/Rob to add details on this meeting to the NCIP sites.
Implementer Registry prototype (Susan Campbell)
Susan has completed forms for Version 1 & 2 responders and initiators. The first page has the core
message text, links to completed forms and several reporting options. It is possible to view this
information without a login. The forms begin with the messages that are common to Self-Service and
Resource Sharing and then branch into the unique messages for each area.
•
Action Item: Input requested on forms, text, reports, etc.
Testing Login: http://ncip.dev3.webenabled.net/ If you would like a unique login, please send a note to
Susan and she’ll make that available.
•
Login: NCIPTEST
•
Password: NCIPTEST
Ask NCIP Forum & FAQ (Dhaval & John Barr)
Discussion from the last meeting about ways to make information about NCIP more readily available, and
to enable questions outside of this group to engage.
John and Dhaval have created an internet forum for discussion. NCIPnow.com. Need to register and
become a member to post. Question of how this might be different/better than the existing open
discussion list (with archives): http://www.niso.org/lists/ncipinfo/. There are currently 119 users on the
discussion list. Several members mentioned that they follow several forums and like the fact that the
messages are in a discrete area rather than being mixed with general emails.
•
Action Item: Will need to have a moderator, rules, guidelines, etc. John & Dhaval to take a first
stab at writing up some guidelines for this group to review before the group goes public.
Action Items & April Meeting Followups
Please review these in the NISO workspace and update status.
Documentation Projects
Rob has put together a document about NCIP updates and versioning. He describes the workflow that we
have agreed upon in NCIP continuous maintenance.
•
Action Item: Please review and provide feedback prior to the next call.
•
Action Item: Gail will draft a list of documentation projects and post it to the group prior to the
next call (but after ALA).
Other/New Business
None.
Next call/meeting
3rd Thurs. 1:00 eastern: July 15
Other scheduled calls & meetings: Aug 19, Sept 8-9 (Chicago), Sept 16, Oct 21, Nov 18, Dec 16
June 17, 2010
Reported by Karen Wetzel
In attendance:
•
Gail Wanner (chair)
•
Thalia Dickson (TLC)
•
Collette Mak (Notre Dame)
•
Eric Leckbee (III)
•
John Barr (Polaris)
•
Mary Jackson (Auto-Graphics)
•
Mike Dicus (Ex Libris)
•
Robert Pillow & Brad Myers (VTLS)
•
Susan Campbell (CCLA)
•
Karen Wetzel (NISO)
Updates from Implementers & Standards-Related News
ILS-DI project (Karen Wetzel)*
This ILS Discovery Interfaces group currently managed by Andrew Nagy. In a 6/14/10 e-mail, he noted:
From my perspective, the goal of this group is to take existing recommendations (ILS-DI) and
standards (NCIP) to produce a working toolset for providing true interoperability between
Discovery systems and ILS systems. That being said, I feel that the current recommendation or
focus of this group is right on so far: To adopt the XC NCIPToolkit to provide a web service
interaction model between the two aforementioned systems. The NCIPToolkit currently uses the
1.0 NCIP standard which is a specification for various messages in the exchange of information.
Right now they are using 1.0, and may not understand the changes/improvements available in 2.0, and
may not be aware of the future planned changes and that continuous maintenance process. John Bodfish
is engaged, but it would make sense to have a stronger tie with NCIP.
This is an outgrowth of the DLF work; the current project goal is stated as: “This group is intended for
discussion and concrete action toward developing an infrastructure for interoperating between integrated
library systems and other systems, but primarily discovery layers such as Blacklight, VUFind, Summon,
WorldCat Local, SOPAC, Scriblio, and others. This work has been picked up by an interested group in the
Code4Lib community.” See more, including a join link to this group, on the ILS-DI Homepage: http://
groups.google.com/group/ils-di/web/ils-interop-discussion-home?_done=%2Fgroup%2Fils-di%3F
•
Action Item: Gail/Rob to reach out to Andrew.
Is NCIP Restful?
See discussion paper from Kevin Stewart at Relais. It would be beneficial to say that we are.
•
Action Item: Please review the document and send feedback to this group.
•
Action Item: Karen/Rob to post this as a discussion topic to NCIP sites; Karen to add to the July
Newsline (Gail to provide brief write-up to Karen by July 2nd).
Outreach
ALA Social Hour – Sunday, June 27 Time - 5:30 to 7:00 pm
Lobby Bar at the Renaissance Washington DC Hotel
(999 Ninth Street NW; across street from Convention Center)
Sent to NCIP-related groups:
ILL/DD, Rethinking Resource Sharing, NCIP-IG list, NISO list, LITA
Informal gathering to discuss NCIP, meet the people involved in the maintenance/use of the standard. Action Item: Gail to send a note to Andrew Nagy about this event, to forward to the ILS-DI list (if he’s
willing).
Fall Meeting Update (Mike Dicus)
Dates: Sept. 8 & 9, 2010, Chicago, IL
See Mike’s e-mail sent on 6/3/10 for more information, including hotel rates/codes, travel info, etc.
Wednesday, 9 a.m. – Thursday, 3 p.m.
•
Action Item: If you have any special food requirements, please contact Mike to let him know.
•
Action Item: Karen/Rob to add details on this meeting to the NCIP sites.
Implementer Registry prototype (Susan Campbell)
Susan has completed forms for Version 1 & 2 responders and initiators. The first page has the core
message text, links to completed forms and several reporting options. It is possible to view this
information without a login. The forms begin with the messages that are common to Self-Service and
Resource Sharing and then branch into the unique messages for each area.
•
Action Item: Input requested on forms, text, reports, etc.
Testing Login: http://ncip.dev3.webenabled.net/ If you would like a unique login, please send a note to
Susan and she’ll make that available.
•
Login: NCIPTEST
•
Password: NCIPTEST
Ask NCIP Forum & FAQ (Dhaval & John Barr)
Discussion from the last meeting about ways to make information about NCIP more readily available, and
to enable questions outside of this group to engage.
John and Dhaval have created an internet forum for discussion. NCIPnow.com. Need to register and
become a member to post. Question of how this might be different/better than the existing open
discussion list (with archives): http://www.niso.org/lists/ncipinfo/. There are currently 119 users on the
discussion list. Several members mentioned that they follow several forums and like the fact that the
messages are in a discrete area rather than being mixed with general emails.
•
Action Item: Will need to have a moderator, rules, guidelines, etc. John & Dhaval to take a first
stab at writing up some guidelines for this group to review before the group goes public.
Action Items & April Meeting Followups
Please review these in the NISO workspace and update status.
Documentation Projects
Rob has put together a document about NCIP updates and versioning. He describes the workflow that we
have agreed upon in NCIP continuous maintenance.
•
Action Item: Please review and provide feedback prior to the next call.
•
Action Item: Gail will draft a list of documentation projects and post it to the group prior to the
next call (but after ALA).
Other/New Business
None.
Next call/meeting
3rd Thurs. 1:00 eastern: July 15
Other scheduled calls & meetings: Aug 19, Sept 8-9 (Chicago), Sept 16, Oct 21, Nov 18, Dec 16
